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Joe Preston avatar
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Fellow Great Lakers,

 

I am looking into the Yahoo situation in my spare time. Right now we have just over 10GB of pictures and around 50MB of files and other stuff. That will be gone
as of December 14. No new uploads as of 10/28.

 

I spoke with Waco. As you know, they were acquired by a company in Europe. I was told they will be shutting down the Forum. That will end soon.

 

I tried to look into Google Groups, but was unable to find anything around storing photos or files. That seems like what Yahoo groups will become, merely an e-mail
chat room.

 

Below is the update from the person running Groups.io  The pricing he is quoting is for the 10GB plan. We are already over that. The next option is for $220/month
which is beyond our needs. If we go with them, we will have to remove some of the pictures so we can fit within their parameters.  That doesn t leave us much room though. As you can see from his comment, we need to make a decision to go with them before 12/1.
That will also change the group to one that includes a fee. That means someone must also administer that.

 

This group has been great for information trading and sharing pictures and stuff, but we are at a reflection point. I am not a tech guy but one of the part-time
group administrators. I am willing to help with some things managing the group, but I really do not want to be having to chase people for their annual dues. You guys have to decide what you want to do. That means we need people to help on this. I am happy
to coordinate a move, but I would like some help as I have a business to run.

 

Let s hear your thoughts on this. Read below

 

Joe

 

Like everyone, we were taken by surprise when Yahoo announced they will be shutting down Yahoo Groups in just a few short weeks. Groups.io runs a world-class email groups service and has quickly been recognized as the best migration option for Yahoo Groups
users. We are flattered by this recognition, and have been overwhelmed with traffic and group transfer requests as a result. We have spent the days since Yahoo's announcement diligently adding new server capacity and starting to work through an unprecedented
number of transfer requests.

Fortunately, Groups.io has always been built to scale and already has a user base in excess of 1 million users today. In order to accommodate this major growth phase while maintaining
our excellent service levels and industry-leading functionality, we will need to adjust our pricing as follows. As of 9AM Pacific Time, October 22:

  1. The annual fee for premium groups is $20/month or $220/year. (Premium groups in existence before that date are grandfathered in at their current fee.)
  2. As is already the case, all transferred groups are required to be premium groups for the first year. The $220 transfer fee counts for the premium fee, so once having paid the transfer fee, transferred groups are exempt from paying the premium fee for the first
    year.

As you know, Yahoo has given us incredibly short deadlines. New content cannot be uploaded to Yahoo Groups after October 28 and all user generated content will be deleted from Yahoo
Groups on December 14. To ensure that we have enough time to export all data off of Yahoo, we have set a deadline of midnight, December 1 Pacific Time for all new transfer requests to be received. Assuming that Yahoo doesn t have any server issues, we believe
that we ll be able to export all data out of Yahoo before they delete all the data. However, in order to maintain a high level of service to our existing customers, we cannot import groups into our service as fast as we can export them out of Yahoo. There
may be some delay before we can import all groups. If you wish to have your transfer prioritized, the group transfer page allows you to pay an additional one-time fee of $200 (this will go live at 9AM Pacific Time, October 22).

We welcome the opportunity to elevate the groups email experience for Yahoo users. We are committed to making the migration process as seamless as possible. Thank you for choosing
Groups.io.

Thanks, Mark

 

 

 


   
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Joe, thanks for the great work you ve done for all of us.? I ve been here since the group was formed and have seen it develop into a tremendous resource for the GL folks.? I believe the pictures and files sections are a great luxury.? But looking back, I think the group would still have survived and, perhaps, thrived without them.? If Yahoo will allow us to continue the forum without a files section, that will certainly work.? If we need to get some valuable files to each other we can always PM each other.? I m not geeky enuf to know of another file swapping service that s available on a group basis and, if the Waco group serves as an example, not many of us are looking forward to learning a new system to chat.

 

That s just my 2-cents worth.? Everyone would weigh in on this important question.? Joe, you re a prince for helping us like this and we all appreciate it.

 

Ranger Mike

 

From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:41 PM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [greatlakesbiplane] yahoo shutting down groups

 

 

Fellow Great Lakers,

 

I am looking into the Yahoo situation in my spare time. Right now we have just over 10GB of pictures and around 50MB of files and other stuff. That will be gone as of December 14. No new uploads as of 10/28.

 

I spoke with Waco. As you know, they were acquired by a company in Europe. I was told they will be shutting down the Forum. That will end soon.

 

I tried to look into Google Groups, but was unable to find anything around storing photos or files. That seems like what Yahoo groups will become, merely an e-mail chat room.

 

Below is the update from the person running Groups.io  The pricing he is quoting is for the 10GB plan. We are already over that. The next option is for $220/month which is beyond our needs. If we go with them, we will have to remove some of the pictures so we can fit within their parameters.  That doesn t leave us much room though. As you can see from his comment, we need to make a decision to go with them before 12/1. That will also change the group to one that includes a fee. That means someone must also administer that.

 

This group has been great for information trading and sharing pictures and stuff, but we are at a reflection point. I am not a tech guy but one of the part-time group administrators. I am willing to help with some things managing the group, but I really do not want to be having to chase people for their annual dues. You guys have to decide what you want to do. That means we need people to help on this. I am happy to coordinate a move, but I would like some help as I have a business to run.

 

Let s hear your thoughts on this. Read below

 

Joe

 

Like everyone, we were taken by surprise when Yahoo announced they will be shutting down Yahoo Groups in just a few short weeks. Groups.io runs a world-class email groups service and has quickly been recognized as the best migration option for Yahoo Groups users. We are flattered by this recognition, and have been overwhelmed with traffic and group transfer requests as a result. We have spent the days since Yahoo's announcement diligently adding new server capacity and starting to work through an unprecedented number of transfer requests.

Fortunately, Groups.io has always been built to scale and already has a user base in excess of 1 million users today. In order to accommodate this major growth phase while maintaining our excellent service levels and industry-leading functionality, we will need to adjust our pricing as follows. As of 9AM Pacific Time, October 22:

  1. The annual fee for premium groups is $20/month or $220/year. (Premium groups in existence before that date are grandfathered in at their current fee.)
  2. As is already the case, all transferred groups are required to be premium groups for the first year. The $220 transfer fee counts for the premium fee, so once having paid the transfer fee, transferred groups are exempt from paying the premium fee for the first year.

As you know, Yahoo has given us incredibly short deadlines. New content cannot be uploaded to Yahoo Groups after October 28 and all user generated content will be deleted from Yahoo Groups on December 14. To ensure that we have enough time to export all data off of Yahoo, we have set a deadline of midnight, December 1 Pacific Time for all new transfer requests to be received. Assuming that Yahoo doesn t have any server issues, we believe that we ll be able to export all data out of Yahoo before they delete all the data. However, in order to maintain a high level of service to our existing customers, we cannot import groups into our service as fast as we can export them out of Yahoo. There may be some delay before we can import all groups. If you wish to have your transfer prioritized, the group transfer page allows you to pay an additional one-time fee of $200 (this will go live at 9AM Pacific Time, October 22).

We welcome the opportunity to elevate the groups email experience for Yahoo users. We are committed to making the migration process as seamless as possible. Thank you for choosing Groups.io.

Thanks, Mark

 

 

 


   
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John Hofmann avatar
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Facebook has no limit on group photos as far as I know.   https://www.facebook.com/groups/141492816571383/?ref=share

On Oct 24, 2019, at 6:00 PM, 'Mike Danielle' mikeda@centurylink.net [greatlakesbiplane] wrote:

?

 

Joe, thanks for the great work you ve done for all of us.  I ve been here since the group was formed and have seen it develop into a tremendous resource for the GL folks.  I believe the pictures and files sections are a great luxury.  But looking back, I think the group would still have survived and, perhaps, thrived without them.  If Yahoo will allow us to continue the forum without a files section, that will certainly work.  If we need to get some valuable files to each other we can always PM each other.  I m not geeky enuf to know of another file swapping service that s available on a group basis and, if the Waco group serves as an example, not many of us are looking forward to learning a new system to chat.

 

That s just my 2-cents worth.  Everyone would weigh in on this important question.  Joe, you re a prince for helping us like this and we all appreciate it.

 

Ranger Mike

 

From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:41 PM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [greatlakesbiplane] yahoo shutting down groups

 

 

Fellow Great Lakers,

 

I am looking into the Yahoo situation in my spare time. Right now we have just over 10GB of pictures and around 50MB of files and other stuff. That will be gone as of December 14. No new uploads as of 10/28.

 

I spoke with Waco. As you know, they were acquired by a company in Europe. I was told they will be shutting down the Forum. That will end soon.

 

I tried to look into Google Groups, but was unable to find anything around storing photos or files. That seems like what Yahoo groups will become, merely an e-mail chat room.

 

Below is the update from the person running Groups.io  The pricing he is quoting is for the 10GB plan. We are already over that. The next option is for $220/month which is beyond our needs. If we go with them, we will have to remove some of the pictures so we can fit within their parameters.  That doesn t leave us much room though. As you can see from his comment, we need to make a decision to go with them before 12/1. That will also change the group to one that includes a fee. That means someone must also administer that.

 

This group has been great for information trading and sharing pictures and stuff, but we are at a reflection point. I am not a tech guy but one of the part-time group administrators. I am willing to help with some things managing the group, but I really do not want to be having to chase people for their annual dues. You guys have to decide what you want to do. That means we need people to help on this. I am happy to coordinate a move, but I would like some help as I have a business to run.

 

Let s hear your thoughts on this. Read below

 

Joe

 

Like everyone, we were taken by surprise when Yahoo announced they will be shutting down Yahoo Groups in just a few short weeks. Groups.io runs a world-class email groups service and has quickly been recognized as the best migration option for Yahoo Groups users. We are flattered by this recognition, and have been overwhelmed with traffic and group transfer requests as a result. We have spent the days since Yahoo's announcement diligently adding new server capacity and starting to work through an unprecedented number of transfer requests.

Fortunately, Groups.io has always been built to scale and already has a user base in excess of 1 million users today. In order to accommodate this major growth phase while maintaining our excellent service levels and industry-leading functionality, we will need to adjust our pricing as follows. As of 9AM Pacific Time, October 22:

  1. The annual fee for premium groups is $20/month or $220/year. (Premium groups in existence before that date are grandfathered in at their current fee.)
  2. As is already the case, all transferred groups are required to be premium groups for the first year. The $220 transfer fee counts for the premium fee, so once having paid the transfer fee, transferred groups are exempt from paying the premium fee for the first year.

As you know, Yahoo has given us incredibly short deadlines. New content cannot be uploaded to Yahoo Groups after October 28 and all user generated content will be deleted from Yahoo Groups on December 14. To ensure that we have enough time to export all data off of Yahoo, we have set a deadline of midnight, December 1 Pacific Time for all new transfer requests to be received. Assuming that Yahoo doesn t have any server issues, we believe that we ll be able to export all data out of Yahoo before they delete all the data. However, in order to maintain a high level of service to our existing customers, we cannot import groups into our service as fast as we can export them out of Yahoo. There may be some delay before we can import all groups. If you wish to have your transfer prioritized, the group transfer page allows you to pay an additional one-time fee of $200 (this will go live at 9AM Pacific Time, October 22).

We welcome the opportunity to elevate the groups email experience for Yahoo users. We are committed to making the migration process as seamless as possible. Thank you for choosing Groups.io.

Thanks, Mark

 

 

 


   
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Joe (and everyone else),

I think we should try Groups.io.  While I rarely post, this group has been a tremendous resource for me and I hate to see it disappear.  I am happy to help pay for a Groups.io account.  I think it is invaluable to be able to store files, have a wiki for FAQ, a calendar section for events, and most importantly, a way to search topic threads for information (hot starts anyone?).  While I enjoy the photos of other planes, it is actually the least important to my plane ownership experience.
Sorry, Mikko, while I own stock in Facebook and have a business account, I do think they are evil and can't be trusted with personal information. (Good idea though on opening a separate plane account.)  We can store all our pretty pictures in Facebook, but keep discussions, topics, manuals, plans, files, calendars, etc. in Groups.io.  It looks like posts to Facebook can automatically appear in Groups.io.
Rather than subscription membership, I suggest that we ask for voluntary donations once/year to pay the annual fee.  It shouldn't be too hard to come up with $220 each year, especially if we give contributors special recognition by their name.
I just hate to see all the collected wisdom in all the email posts disappear.
Brian

   
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Joe Preston avatar
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Topic starter  

Thanks for your input Brian. Maybe over the weekend I can send out a poll to the group to get a sense of what others want. There s no sense going through the expense and time investment in a move if we don t have the interest. 

Joe

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On Oct 25, 2019, at 22:55, b2brown@adelphia.net [greatlakesbiplane] wrote:

?  

Joe (and everyone else),

I think we should try Groups.io.  While I rarely post, this group has been a tremendous resource for me and I hate to see it disappear.  I am happy to help pay for a Groups.io account.  I think it is invaluable to be able to store files, have a wiki for
FAQ, a calendar section for events, and most importantly, a way to search topic threads for information (hot starts anyone?).  While I enjoy the photos of other planes, it is actually the least important to my plane ownership experience.
Sorry, Mikko, while I own stock in Facebook and have a business account, I do think they are evil and can't be trusted with personal information. (Good idea though on opening a separate plane account.)  We can store all our pretty pictures in Facebook,
but keep discussions, topics, manuals, plans, files, calendars, etc. in Groups.io.  It looks like posts to Facebook can automatically appear in Groups.io.
Rather than subscription membership, I suggest that we ask for voluntary donations once/year to pay the annual fee.  It shouldn't be too hard to come up with $220 each year, especially if we give contributors special recognition by their name.
I just hate to see all the collected wisdom in all the email posts disappear.
Brian

   
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  Just about the same thing I was thinking. I'll gladly kick in $20/year to keep the community together. D.L.

   
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Joe Preston avatar
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I just created a poll for the group. Please ad your input, as this will provide some guidance as how we move forward.

 

Joe  

 

From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:00 AM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [greatlakesbiplane] Re: yahoo shutting down groups

 

 

  Just about the same thing I was thinking. I'll gladly kick in $20/year to keep the community together. D.L.


   
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John Hofmann avatar
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Hi Joe ,
 Add me to your poll please ,
As for in put I think the first task is to find/decide on a secure ( home ) ?  for the club information , secure whatever we can from our /it s current location and start rebuilding the data or as they say in England the bummfff
to the new site .
We will never miss what we don t know we lost . And if we really , really need something the chaps in THIS club will find it .   I no longer own a Great Lakes so it s possible my perspective is blurred but for sure change is inevitable
and sometimes a new beginning is a blessing in disguise.
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From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joe Preston Joe@Preston-Company.com [greatlakesbiplane]

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:16:25 AM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [greatlakesbiplane] Re: yahoo shutting down groups

 
 

I just created a poll for the group. Please ad your input, as this will provide some guidance as how we move forward.

 

Joe  

 

From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:00 AM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [greatlakesbiplane] Re: yahoo shutting down groups

 

 

  Just about the same thing I was thinking. I'll gladly kick in $20/year to keep the community together. D.L.


   
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