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Anybody working on an ADS-B solution? I've got a couple of irons in the fire and will followup with what I learn in the future, just wandering what others are looking at or have done so far.


Be the wing, Bill


   
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Hi Bill,  take a look at LEVIL AVIATION.  They have a very interesting series of units which include the GPS.
I still miss my Great Lakes......maybe another one will be considered in the future!
Regards, Brent Owen

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Anybody working on an ADS-B solution? I've got a couple of irons in the fire and will followup with what I learn in the future, just wandering what others are looking at or have done so far.


Be the wing, Bill


   
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Hey Brent, Great to hear from you! I'll add Levil to the mix. Currently have a friend installing a Stratus ESG ( includes WAAS GPS) in his Cruiser soon, the same shop recently installed a Navworx unit ( w/ WAAS GPS) in another ship. I should be able to get a good compare/contrast amongst those units. 

Was promised some time in the Tiger Moth the other day. The widow still hasn't put it up for sale. A family friend convinced her to put new tires, mags, and wing bolts on it an let him fly it for a while. They did the wing bolts last year and the mags this year which turned into a bigger task then anticipated. It has been flying recently. 

Be the wing, Bill

   
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I replaced my Bendix KT-76A with an L-3 Lynx 9000 for ADS-B In/Out.  Nearly the same size as the KT-76A, and it now can interface to ForeFlight on your iPad.  Looks like Garmin has a similar solution.

333H is a 1929 model and fully certified.
 

Wayne

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Anybody working on an ADS-B solution? I've got a couple of irons in the fire and will followup with what I learn in the future, just wandering what others are looking at or have done so far.

Be the wing, Bill

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IMHO, Just stay out of C, B and A airspace and you don't need this worthless system. This system was shoved down out throats by the airlines looking to save money on fuel. Low, slow and looking out of the cockpit can't be beat.

   
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Wish it was that easy. I share your sentiments. I originally thought it was only to operate in ATC controlled environments. My understanding is anywhere a transponder is required you are required to be squawking ADS-B out. That means it also includes Mode C rings too. In these parts, it is near impossible to navigate around Mode C. You might want to double check.

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Equip ADS-B

ADS-B Airspace

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Q: Will  ADS-B  Out be required where I fly?

A: Take a look at the airspace around your home airport

Starting January 1, 2020, you must be equipped with  ADS-B  Out to fly in most controlled airspace.

Download the Equip  ADS-B  Google Earth map to look at the location of  ADS-B  rule airspace at your home base and where you fly. Pan and zoom to different locations and turn on the various capabilities the map includes:

  • 3-dimensional depictions of rule airspace, airports, and temporary flight restrictions in real time
  • Overlays of  ADS-B  surveillance coverage airspace where  ATC  can see aircraft transmitting  ADS-B  Out information at altitudes of 500', 1,500', 3,000', 5,000' and 10,000'  AGL
  • Non-radar airspace where aircraft transmitting  ADS-B  can be seen by  ATC

ADS-B Class A and C Airspaces as portrayed in the Equip ADS-B Google Earth Map ADS-B Coverage at 500' AGL as portrayed in the Equip ADS-B Google Earth Map ADS-B Coverage at 3000' AGL as portrayed in the Equip ADS-B Google Earth Map ADS-B Airspace Class E Airspace as portrayed in the Equip ADS-B Google Earth Map

Need help? Take a look at the instructions (PDF) for how to download and view the Equip ADS-B Google Earth map.

If you fly in this airspace, you must be equipped with  ADS-B
Airspace Altitude
A All
B From the ground up within the Mode C ring
C From the ground up
E Above 10,000 ft  MSL but not below 2,500 feet  AGL


   
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Hi Bill, Yes class "C" is included, I only have one near me, its easy for me to go around it. I usually avoid "D" airspace also. As soon as I am away from the airport, the radio gets turned off.

Pat


   
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Just curious.  This is three years down the road.  In the last few years the technology has gotten better and cheaper.  Are many of you concerned about it now?  I personally plan to have 2-3K set aside for October-ish of 2019 but I'm not going to lose sleep over it today.

Thoughts?
Paul

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Hi Bill, Yes class "C" is included, I only have one near me, its easy for me to go around it. I usually avoid "D" airspace also. As soon as I am away from the airport, the radio gets turned off.

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It seems prudent to wait for more performance at a lower price which will surely be the case.  

Regards,

John Duncan

Great Lakes Aircraft

Warner Engines


From: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Paul M. Mikolajewski' pmikolaj@yahoo.com [greatlakesbiplane]

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 2:05 PM
To: greatlakesbiplane@yahoogroups.com
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Just curious.  This is three years down the road.  In the last few years the technology has gotten better and cheaper.  Are many of you concerned about it now?  I personally plan to have 2-3K set aside for October-ish of 2019 but I'm not going to lose sleep
over it today.

Thoughts?
Paul

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On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, 10:59, psrother@yahoo.com [greatlakesbiplane] wrote:

 

Hi Bill, Yes class "C" is included, I only have one near me, its easy for me to go around it. I usually avoid "D" airspace also. As soon as I am away from the airport, the radio gets turned off.

Pat


   
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Pat just for clarification, Mode C ring is the killer for me not Class C. I typically operate outside of Class A,B,C,D but can not avoid a 30 nm Mode C ring around PHL. The wait idea for lower prices and better technology is an appealing game. The flip side is I have a radio shop on field (other half of my hangar), the 2 owners are very old, waiting till 10/2019 might not play out so well, my home base is also within the Mode C ring so I'll be grounded in 2020 without ADS-B, there's also a $500 bait the FAA is dangling now to make the change. 

Be the wing, Bill

   
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Do tell more about the bait.
Paul

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On Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 04:42, billstockl@msn.com [greatlakesbiplane] wrote:

 

Pat just for clarification, Mode C ring is the killer for me not Class C. I typically operate outside of Class A,B,C,D but can not avoid a 30 nm Mode C ring around PHL. The wait idea for lower prices and better technology is an appealing game. The flip side is I have a radio shop on field (other half of my hangar), the 2 owners are very old, waiting till 10/2019 might not play out so well, my home base is also within the Mode C ring so I'll be grounded in 2020 without ADS-B, there's also a $500 bait the FAA is dangling now to make the change. 

Be the wing, Bill

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Hi Paul, The FAA is offering a $500 rebate to equip now. Here's a link that better explains it. General Aviation ADS-B Rebate Program

 


   
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